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 dudewereismy50ton |
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Posts: 2337 07/02/2008 19:56
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This tow started the night before so no pics. Tanker pulling out of the port after getting a load of gasoline, literally lost the front drive axle while
turning. I wouldnt tow it with the load and the condition so they sent another truck to pump off. So after pumping i chained the front drive up and made the
rig below to air the bags up enough to roll 35 miles to their terminal and drop the trailer. Then i finished the tow to the dealer the next morning.
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authorizedtowing |
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Posts: 291 07/02/2008 20:24 |
Why did they pump off and not just re power the trailer? wouldn't it have been faster and maybe less dangerous? Just curious.
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rotator60 |
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Posts: 6114 07/02/2008 21:26
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Normally they...meaning the gas hauler..will not drop a loaded trailer..even long enough to repower it...Most of the fuel trailers are built so lightweight the
legs cannot support it if it's loaded...
Scott Hedgcoth 160*131818*5 
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dudewereismy50ton |
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Posts: 2338 07/02/2008 21:27
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the trailer didnt have a real landing gear just manual stands. im getting paid by the hour to be safe and switching power on a trailer with 8500 plus gallons
of gas isnt a good idea. pumping it off is as safe as putting in the ground.
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authorizedtowing |
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Posts: 292 07/02/2008 21:33 |
Not curios anymore thanks for the explanation
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 Rod Midkiff |
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Posts: 2264 07/02/2008 21:44
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I've ran line air to the bag's before and blew a bag.... when I try to over blow a bag I now have a regulator.. and just bring the psi up slowly untill
I get full travel....
looks like you get a lot more room to work in their with the super singles.... looks like a good tow.. stay safe Rod |
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authorizedtowing |
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Posts: 293 07/02/2008 21:47 |
Any reason you didn't rear tow? I'm just full of questions tonight.
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xcessiveforce52 |
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Posts: 1326 07/02/2008 22:09
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dudewereismy50ton wrote: good job in not allowing the tanker to be dropped loaded , but I have found and practice that on a loaded tanker instead of pumping off which is not as safe as you think it is I rather support the tanker while they switch out the tanker but if thats what works for you than thats alright too.( the tator charge for tanker support is greater than waiting time). |
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dudewereismy50ton |
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Posts: 2339 07/02/2008 23:06
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i not sure how to tow a tractor from the rear with a trailer attached, the pics are after i dropped the trailer.
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Mr Waialae Chevron |
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Posts: 4452 07/03/2008 02:14
November 2006
Hawaii |
Do you think, if you had to...strap and hold the loaded trailer while they repowered it?
Has anyone done that? Also, whats the purple/blue strap for? I guess I'll add to the questions. lol thanks  Here's to mud in your eye. Barney |
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AutoHaus1 |
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Posts: 269 07/03/2008 04:18 |
I think that is what xcessiveforce was referring to
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dudewereismy50ton |
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Posts: 2340 07/03/2008 07:54
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the small strap is keeping the axle, wheel, tire, hub and drum from sliding the rest of the way out. its too heavy to pickup in one piece.
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Greezy328 |
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Posts: 150 07/03/2008 08:42 |
When I get a trailer thru the asphalt, I try to hold it up and let the spotter latch on from the side, providing theres room, but I`m hooked to the front, with
my chains in a place where they wont interfere with the fifth wheel. Then set it down just enough for the pin to latch, then the rest of the way - otherwise
its pushing against you from the side - so yes you can hold it up for a spotter or tractor - but tankers have limited places to hook - straps might cave in the
sides - he may not have been able to do that.
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ryan miller |
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Posts: 141 07/03/2008 08:50
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We do swap out on fuel tankers all the time, obviously it has to be on solid ground, dolly the legs down on wood and put the stinger under from the side (if in
a parking lot)and relieve the weight ,doNOT PICKUP. gently drive out and repower. We had one go down that they told us would be ok standing on its own,so from
now on wether they like it or not we support the trailer.Works out great .
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authorizedtowing |
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Posts: 296 07/03/2008 15:43 |
dudewereismy50ton wrote: Wow after reading the original post it does say you towed the trailer and I even made a comment about the trailer but looking at the pictures it didn't register that your primary tow did include the trailer It was a long day yesterday my mistake. I guess it would have been hard to rear tow it. |
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xcessiveforce52 |
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Posts: 1329 07/03/2008 21:48
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Mr Waialae Chevron wrote: I have strapped and secured loaded tankers many many times with 1-tator while they switch out the tractors without any problems , and I know of other experienced operators that also do this often without a problem. You just need to know were and how to place your strap. |
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dudewereismy50ton |
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Posts: 2342 07/03/2008 21:51
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jorge without ever have lifted a loaded one where would one strap to be safe. i would guess maybe at a baffle weld.
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Mr Waialae Chevron |
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Posts: 4456 07/04/2008 13:03
November 2006
Hawaii |
Jorge...thanks...I have never done it either, but imagine a couple straps with spreader bars would do the trick.
This would be a last resort, the last thing one would want is the tank to snap on a lift like that. Here's to mud in your eye. Barney |
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ibuytoys |
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Posts: 2247 07/04/2008 13:13 
WreckMaster #080184 Hawaii |
I've swapped out loaded dump trailers with the pinned type legs by lifting it, but have never done a loaded fuel trailer, yet.
Wreckmaster 6/7 - #080184 NCCCO Certified Crane Operator #-----0973 The Crosby Group - Qualified Rigger |
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xcessiveforce52 |
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Posts: 1335 07/05/2008 18:00
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Jeremy, Barney and ibuytoys , it all depends on the tanker most of the ones I have done I have strapped behind the fifth wheel at the frame for the fifth
wheel and I always try to set the strap at the center of the baffle weld. Always use protectors for your straps and keep your boom as elevated as possible and
that will eliminate allot of the pressure against the walls of the tanker. I set the tankers leg down and allow a little weight on them, make sure the tankers
break are set or block the tires in both directions. Make sure everyone is ready for the switch and that they understand they need to get back under this tank
ASAP without any jerking when they do. I do not know if my procedure sound clear. I could not find any good pics other than these .
Last Edited By: xcessiveforce52 07/05/2008 22:52.
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hpgtowing |
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Posts: 5308 07/05/2008 21:15
New Jersey |
Jorge... We have also done it in simular fashion... We used 2 of the tanker 24 inch straps and supported it on it's stands... As I have been advised by
many of our tanker customers. Stands can never be dropped loaded.. They will punch through the tank... But the crank type landing gear with it's frame and
supports can be dropped... Either way? We do take precautions... I have heard of operators putting an air cushion or two for support while swapping units....
But haven't ever attempted it? Be safe... Steve
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